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So, when last we left our heroine, she was pondering the differences between hobbies and mental illnesses. The jury's still out on that one, but we'll assume hobby and go from there... ::looks nervously over shoulder for men bearing white coats::


Friday was the world's longest day at work, as I didn't have a lot to do at work, and I *did* have a lot to do at home. Bad combo. We finally escaped work, and Nick went to get a haircut while I went to get groceries. I never did manage to make a grocery list while at work (yes, I know I had nothing better to do, but anyway) so grocery shopping also involved an emergency call to [livejournal.com profile] kfitzwarin to determine the ideal proportions of STC (~1 lb Brie, 2lb cream cheese, .5 lb butter). While we were there, [livejournal.com profile] darklordmoeser called and wanted to go to dinner, and his suggestion of City Beverage sounded MUCH more appealing than throwing together hot pastrami sandwiches (which was the previous plan). And, in fact, the food was fabulous - Matt and I both got the "Lambsicles", which is what Chris the chef calls his version of rack of lamb with ginger-mint jelly, and it was DAMN good. Nick got swordfish, which I just wasn't in the mood for so I didn't try, but he was happy, so ::shrug: it's all good.

We then went home, and the guys watched Bourne Identity while Nick worked on a belt and I cooked. I broke out the meat grinder and made a MASSIVE quantity of meatballs (based VERY very loosely on the "spanish pots from Taillevent, some egg/cheese/bacon tarts, and whipped together the softened STC ingredients. (This worked rather well, btw, as when heat was applied everything melted together evenly and showed no signs of wanting to separate. Not sure it's feasible for feast quantities, but...) I also made a big batch of ginger syrup (thanks [livejournal.com profile] bunnyjadwiga, I got the idea from one of your handouts though varied the proporprtions/procedure somewhat). The only catch was that due to the lovely dinner, by the time everything was cooked and things were more-or-less ready to pack to go in the truck, we stumbled into bed around 2. Oops!



So Saturday morning rolled around, entirely too soon of course, but we managed to get on the road to Leesburg at something not really resembling the planned-for time, and got to site around 11, which was unfortunate because I did want to help [livejournal.com profile] thalionar out with feast more than I did. Not that she needed it by ANY stretch of the imagination - everything was VERY well organized and the food was tasty. Yay!

I am told there was archery and coursing and equestrian at the event too. I know nothing about those, other than I saw one lady with the most GORGEOUS riding dress - particolored red and black and flowing nicely behind her over a pretty grey horse.

Anyway, so after feast, we set up the spread for the apprenticing - between the few things I brought, and the goodies brought by [livejournal.com profile] luciab, [livejournal.com profile] zihuatanejo, [livejournal.com profile] 3_purple_irises, and [livejournal.com profile] harleenquinzell, we managed to put out a spread that tempted a fair number of people to eat in spite of being both stuffed and hot! So yay. The apprenticing itself was lovely. And the food got lots of compliments - the only downside was that I wasn't thinking and put pork in both the tarts and the meatballs, so poor [livejournal.com profile] nikulai was stuck with just bread and STC on the savories side. I told him he should report me to my Laurel for hospitality failure ::grin:: and he replied, "No, I'll just report you to your grand-Peer, [livejournal.com profile] hun_e_b - she'll understand!". So I'm in a bit of trouble, there... ::grin::

Girard convinced me to start getting into armor around 4, which was very early since they didn't start any armored stuff 'til after the rapier combat (at which the male half of [livejournal.com profile] zihuatanejo did quite well!). So I ended up wandering around for a bit in gambeson-over-underarmor, which made me dreadfully self-conscious. At least it wasn't JUST underarmor, I haven't turned into that much of a stick-jock.
And he did make me a lovely new belt as a favor - it's blue and black and has fleurs-de-lis.



Eventually the rapier fighters got done, and they started authorizations. I was the only "new" authorization (Helmut auth'd polearm) so I went first - the question part of the exercise was fairly easy, though they asked the questions a bit oddly:
Calli: "When are you allowed to hit him?" (gestures at Sir Axel, who was my usher)
Me: "Um... when the marshal says 'Lay on'?? (wondering where on earth he was going with this)
Calli: "Oh, um, well, in single combat that's true... not what I meant though..."
Me: "Ok, you're looking for some word right now but I have no idea what you're asking..."

The mystery word was, of course, "engagement", which I was expecting to be asked about but not quite like that. ::shrug:: Apparently my answers were close enough, though, as they let me keep going.

First was the round where they test offense by going slow-ish. Offense I've got - I don't necessarily have enough power when i'm actually sparring (I can generate it against the pell, when the pell is not a Sad Broken Heap on my porch, but I haven't internalized the mechanics enough to remember to do it against an Actual Person Who Hits Back). So that went ok, though the part where they walk away and talk about you is a bit nerve wracking. (I really hate knowing people are talking about me when I can't know what they're saying. Personal peeve, though I understand why they do it in this case). The "test your defense" second half was apparently amusing for all watching, though. You see, my shield arm has approximately the endurance of a 16-year-old boy getting laid for the first time. I know the shield corner is going to drop and I'm going to get clocked. So the only choice I've got is to attempt to kill whoever I'm fighting as quickly as possible. Does this work? Not precisely, as the people I'm fighting tend to have more defense than that. But it's what I've got. Then there was more talking, I was told I have a certain tendency to punch-block more aggressively than I should (it's not that I hit people when doing it, but I came a bit close - yay nerves!) and I still need to ramp up on power, but otherwise I'm doing fine.

Next was the "let's go full speed and see if she freaks out! round".  ::grin:: And THIS part I did well on, apparently - Sir Axel charged me practically out of the ring and I mostly held my ground (though apparently with my eyes shut tight!) and came back to try and hit him again. Of course, like all 3rd rounds of authorizations, I died. And then there was more talking...and... ::drumroll please:: I passed! So... I'm now an authorized fighter!! Go me!! I would scan my temp card, but you just don't want to see that - you'd laugh at me because I was filling it out while still on the adrenaline high of passing. Therefore, it looks like a 3-year-old who just ate a whole bag of M&Ms was guiding my hand while I was writing.


So there were 8 total heavy fighters (including me! I'm a real fighter now!) at the event, and it was decided to have a Bedford Points tourney. The first pairing was (theoretically) random, though I'm not entirely sure I believe James on that one (the MoL was another member of Oldcastle, and was VERY amused when he announced the pairings). Guess who I had to fight, in my very first tourney bout ever? Yep, my beloved consort, Girard.

Girard promptly one-shotted me.

Poor man, he got boo'd for that one. Which wasn't really fair, I dropped my shield, and I would have been mad, as his consort, had he not taken the opening. I lasted a bit longer in the second bout, and in the other fights I was in (thanks more to my opponents generosity than my skill, but I'll take what I can get at this point).  One fighter, Duncan, even said that I was one of the most aggressive new/female fighters he's ever fought and that I had potential (yay! he's not someone I know at ALL well, though I know his knight - Sir Gunther - so that made me happy).

Anyway, I dropped out of the tourney after 4 rounds, as I was getting to the point where I couldn't have thrown a good blow if I had wanted to. (Again with the endurance thing).  There were two more rounds, and Afshin ended up being the overall winner. (That man is scary! in a good way, but damn!)

So Her Highness was there, having decided to come to the event at the last minute, and she awarded the prizes for all of the fighting - as I said, Afshin won the heavy prize, and [livejournal.com profile] baronalejandro won the rapier tourney. Then she announced there was another prize for "Most Chivalrous" that was to be awarded to the person that impressed her from amongst both the rapier and armored tourneys.  Well, you could have knocked me over with a feather, as the next name called was me! Apparently I am fierce :-) and I have a dagger to prove it. I'm still completely floored by getting this - it seems somewhat unfair, getting any sort of tourney prize on my first event while my husband hasn't gotten one yet.  But... I'm going to hang it on the wall, and look at it whenever I get frustrated with myself for not being very good at this game. It'll come in handy, I think...

'Course, since my goal was "Authorize before Baronial Champions", I don't know what my new goal should be. While I hope to fight a little at Champs, if things are going well in the kitchen, I'm really only doing that so I can enter the Static A&S championship.  I DO plan on fighting a bunch at Pennsic, though, esp. in the KW Novice Tourney and the Iron Rose Novice Tourney. I suppose my goal for that will be "Get one good blow on SOMEBODY, in one of those tourneys".  We'll see...
 

Date: 2006-06-19 06:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] melaniesuzanne.livejournal.com
Congratulations!!!! That is so very awesome!

Date: 2006-06-19 06:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lady-guenievre.livejournal.com
Thanks!! I think I need a more badass icon, and to save the baby seal one for when I get owned...

Date: 2006-06-19 06:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] soucyn.livejournal.com
I'm very proud of you. Not only did you authorize on your first attempt, but you carried yourself with honor and grace in the tourney; enough so that Her Highness was moved to notice it and reward it. I'll try and figure out the consort bit as best I can, but for now, know that you have made me very happy.

Date: 2006-06-19 07:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lady-guenievre.livejournal.com
Awwww!!!! you're not supposed to make me cry at work, darlin!

Date: 2006-06-19 08:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kfitzwarin.livejournal.com
You're not supposed to make me cry either! (Awwwww!)

Date: 2006-06-19 06:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silverstah.livejournal.com
Many congrats! I only saw one of your battles, but your carried yourself with strength, grace, and dignity. You should be proud. :)

Remember to use your assets to your best ability - you're smaller and quicker than most of the guys, so that's going to throw them off a bit. Use that to your best advantage, and I'm sure you'll go far. :)

Date: 2006-06-19 07:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lady-guenievre.livejournal.com
Thanks!! (and love the icon).

Remembering that my size is an asset as well as a liability is tough - it's easy to forget that legshots are easier (if I can manage not to go low) when I'm annoyed that I can't reach people's heads...

Date: 2006-06-19 07:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silverstah.livejournal.com
*nod* I run into that problem when I practice Aikido. Our dojo is filled with large, robust men - I'm one of the few women. When you're around all that testosterone, it's easy to fall into the "bigger and stronger is better" trap.

With practice, you'll develop your own unique style that works well for your body type. It's amazing watching your journey - please, continue to share it with us. :)

Date: 2006-06-19 06:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heike.livejournal.com
Congratulations. Sounds like you had a great time, not even including authorizing.
So, what's a Bedford Points tourney?

Date: 2006-06-19 07:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lady-guenievre.livejournal.com
It was wonderful!

As for the BP tourney, I was wondering whether these were just an Atlantian thing, as I couldn't find a good discription to link to when I was writing this up.

Basically, it's a tourney style invented by HRM Michael, with the stated goal of giving people lots of fighting (more than a double elim) in approximately their skill group (that part works better in a larger field).

The first pairing is random, and you fight 2 of 3. Win 2-in-a-row, you get 10 points, if it splits the winner gets 7 and the loser gets 3, and if each contestant wins one and then there's a double kill, each combatant gets 5 points.

All the combatants are then ranked by points, and paired with whoever has nearest # of points. Rinse, lather, repeat as often as desired, points are cumulative. In theory, in a few rounds the Knights and Dukes and what not will be fighting each other, and the low-end fighters will be fighting each other, and in theory a mid-level fighter can win the whole thing because the higher-end fighters can end up canceling each other out. If there isn't a clear winner by points after a given number of rounds, there's sometimes a points cutoff, and everyone below a certain number drops out of the tourney and the winner is decided by round-robin or double elim or whatever.

Date: 2006-06-19 07:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gamelyn.livejournal.com
Yes. It's a fun style of tournament though I had to quietly whisper "D'oh!" to myself after getting Sir Axel as my opponent for several rounds. I had no defense for his penile thrusting technique. Yes, that's what I said.

Date: 2006-06-19 07:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lady-guenievre.livejournal.com
Better you than me!

Date: 2006-06-19 07:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] soucyn.livejournal.com
Well, there seems to be 2 ways to handle that. One, take it. That doesn't work well for you, but is probably fun for him.

The other, get close to him and he won't have the room to generate power. That or get far away (doesn't matter how good the fighter is, he's not long enough to hit you in C range).

Date: 2006-06-19 09:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gamelyn.livejournal.com
Normally I'd be all over the range thing. However, he used this particular technique to thrust my chest by reaching in-between his legs while I was on my knees. Kind of hard to get back to C range and getting in close doesn't matter really, since I was already just about kissing his waist. I gotta figure out how to get my hilt down there to block such a shot.

Date: 2006-06-19 09:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] soucyn.livejournal.com
Yeah, but if you get your hilt down there to block it, you have no offense and it'll open up your head. Perhaps a shield block would work better. It would unwise of him to try and face thrust you over your shield, as a simple pop from your shield on the blade of his weapon would drive it right into his cup region...

Date: 2006-06-19 09:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gamelyn.livejournal.com
Hmm. I'll have to think about it - I don't know if I can get my shield around his leg to block his sword, though. He might be able to recover quicker and just slam me with a flat snap/head wrap if I do that.

Date: 2006-06-19 08:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heike.livejournal.com
I've been in a similar tourney, but I don't remember what it was called. It was a team tourney, and we first fought everyone on our team to rank team members. Then our top ranked fought the top ranked from another team, and so on down the rankings.

I'm going to suggest this tourney format next time a friend is marshalling.

Date: 2006-06-19 08:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lady-guenievre.livejournal.com
I didn't realize it, as most people call them Bedford Points tourneys around here, but they're in the MoL book as a "magic tourney" - if your marshal friend wants more info, it's here: http://mol.atlantia.sca.org/Handbook/MoLHandbook081502.pdf , on page 56.

Date: 2006-06-19 07:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elizabethnmafia.livejournal.com
Congradulations Hon!!!!!! That's fantastic! :)

Date: 2006-06-19 07:12 pm (UTC)

Date: 2006-06-19 07:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] azpapillion.livejournal.com
Congrats on authorizing!!! :)

And for the first try - thats even better! :)

Date: 2006-06-19 08:47 pm (UTC)

Date: 2006-06-19 08:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] intrepida.livejournal.com
Yay! Congrats! I'm going to wait to re-auth after I move...

Date: 2006-06-19 08:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lady-guenievre.livejournal.com
I don't blame you! Wonder what Calontiri auths are like? (after hearing about the ones Skippy was telling us about in the Middle, I'm glad I'm Atlantian...)

Date: 2006-06-20 05:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] intrepida.livejournal.com
I'm sure I will tell you all about them.

Date: 2006-06-19 08:06 pm (UTC)

Date: 2006-06-19 08:45 pm (UTC)

Date: 2006-06-19 08:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nikulai.livejournal.com
Ya know... I thought about calling you guys Friday when I left work to see what you were doing for dinner and then I thought 'they are probably at site'

Date: 2006-06-19 08:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nikulai.livejournal.com
Shoulda kept reading before posting the comment...

Congrats on both authorizing and the prize!

And what I said was that if I reported you to your peer, she would tell me its my own fault for not eating pork. However, your grand peer would understand.

Date: 2006-06-19 08:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lady-guenievre.livejournal.com
LOL, yes, but it's funnier the way I tell it.

And thanks!

Date: 2006-06-19 09:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nikulai.livejournal.com
Silly me... think i would learn not to confuse a good telling with facts...

Date: 2006-06-19 08:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] soucyn.livejournal.com
We figured you were probably in the same boat. Doh!

Date: 2006-06-19 08:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] liadethornegge.livejournal.com
Sounds like an awesome time.

Congratulations on authorising and for getting the prize!

Date: 2006-06-19 08:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lady-guenievre.livejournal.com
Thanks - it really was - I'm still somewhat giddy, and it's Monday...

Date: 2006-06-19 09:07 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] mary-wroth.livejournal.com
Wow! Awesome news on your award!

Date: 2006-06-19 10:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lady-guenievre.livejournal.com
Oooh! I get the maracas!

Yup, sounds about right!

Date: 2006-06-19 09:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i-ddb.livejournal.com
Calli: "When are you allowed to hit him?" (gestures at Sir Axel, who was my usher)
Me: "Um... when the marshal says 'Lay on'?? (wondering where on earth he was going with this)"


I had almost the exact same conversation at my authorization...they've GOT to come up with a better way of asking that!

Congratulations, I know what a rush that can be. Actually reading about yours has given me a little push towards getting back in armour. I've been sick - and though I'm now better I'm still using that as an excuse...so Thank You!

BTW, your lord's comment made me all misty-eyed too...awww!

YIS;

Evaine ni MacGreger
Kingdom of the West

Re: Yup, sounds about right!

Date: 2006-06-20 02:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lady-guenievre.livejournal.com
If they had even said "When can you hit someone *in melee* I would have been ok, but...

And yes, my husband is fabulous like that.

If I'm ever in the West (or you're at Pennsic?) we should fight... :-)

Re: Yup, sounds about right!

Date: 2006-06-20 05:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i-ddb.livejournal.com
Well, Pennsic is definitely in our plans - I just don't know what year. My husband's never been, and I haven't been since XX...and I wasn't a fighter then.

I'm not even sure I would have gotten the question right if they'd said "in melee". I think to get "engagement" out of me you'd have to say something like "What's it called when two fighters have acknowledged each other and are about to fight?" It's just not a word that comes trippingly off my tongue.

Now I *really* have to get my swords back together and go fight!

Date: 2006-06-19 11:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kithmyglaive.livejournal.com
Sweet! Congrats Chick...Welcome to the Club ! :)

Now if Kfitzwarin would get into armour.... ;)

Date: 2006-06-20 02:33 am (UTC)

Date: 2006-06-20 01:58 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Congrats :) Well done you!

Date: 2006-06-20 02:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lady-guenievre.livejournal.com
I wonder who posted this?

Date: 2006-06-20 02:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zihuatanejo.livejournal.com
Shiny!!!!

Congrats again! And thanks again for the lovely food!

Date: 2006-06-20 02:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lady-guenievre.livejournal.com
No problem, it was fun to do!

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